Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
Baffling.
Originally posted by MattG:[..]
i was gonna string this out a little longer but ill go ahead and bite right away.
this is what i'm talking about when i say its difficult to even begin a conversation, discussion, or disagreement with you. i happen to be in the same camp as Kieran thinking OK Computer is their best album, but instead of asking why, or stating what it is you even enjoy about The Bends, you say our opinion is "baffling" with no support.
Why would we engage with you? It's a stand-offish and condescending way to try to carry a discussion.
also ok computer is the best one lol
Originally posted by KieranU2:There's a difference between favourite and best anyway. I was just stirring the pot.
Laying it out as "it's their best album" then following it up with "that's opinions for you" is wild. OK Computer and The Bends aren't even considered their best album; normally Kid A is. So what you mean is The Bends is your favourite album, which demonstrates your opinion.
Originally posted by MattG:To use a word like "baffling" would indicate you have strong opinions about either album, when in actuality, it sounds like you have only one: "the songs are better on one"
Usually a discussion would involve supporting reasons why, maybe a mention of a personal anecdote, maybe why you disagree.
Kieran said the reason why people call anything other than The Bends their best album is because OK Computer is actually their best album, a difference of opinion. He's offered no more reasoning than you have. You've both made the same point.
But to you, his is "baffling" which I find condescending. The floor is open for conversation when a disagreement is posted (Kieran's), but instead of carrying that conversation any further
"Baffling."
Originally posted by KieranU2:Can I just add when I said that OK Computer is the "best album" I was being facetious.
It just doesn't make any sense to you, Dean. "Favourite" means someone's personal preference to something. It does not mean the same as "best", because like you usually do it's almost cemented as fact, like that should be acknowledged universally.
It's also not "baffling" that OK Computer would be better than The Bends anyway (not that I necessary think that, it's just more favourable to me, albeit slightly). That's really strange behaviour anyway, like you're trying to insinuate that OK Computer is average.
Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
I simply think song for song The Bends is much better than any of there other albums. There’s not a bad song on the album. I guess I think more people would agree because it doesn’t sound like a particularly difficult album to enjoy, that’s the baffling part, it sounds friendly enough for a wider audience but also good enough for people that like there less commercial music too.