Originally posted by UnderARedSky:BONO: “My feeling, is that it is cool for people to share our music, as long as no one is making money from the process. We tell people who come to our concerts that they can tape the shows if they want. I think it is cool that people are so passionate about our music”
It can't get any more simple than that
Originally posted by cookoman:To quote Bono again, aren't some of thesa video makers just "stealing from the thieves"?
Originally posted by Ricku2:[..]
I can understand Sharebear when he doesn't want his recordings to be used by mr Vetri anymore because of his attitude in the past but I don't see why he was trying to control everything in the first place. Does it really hurt you or your recordings when someone uses your great audio with maybe little less video quality? I don't think so.
Originally posted by hoserama:[..]
Generally in agreement with Rick's statements. Just wanted to add something here where we might disagree. In general I do think it diminishes the audio, if not at least diminishes the hard work that went into it. But I know I'm a bit fussy on stuff like that, so I do see your point.
It's funny--I did give permission to Vetri back in the day to use some of my 2011 stuff for a compilation he did. Then I saw some of his work, and especially the misaligned janky Vancouver 2015 release he did. Prior to Brazil 2017, I reached out to see if they were planning on doing a coordinated audio/video for those shows. I was told it would only be cell phone videos, and nobody was running an audio rig because "it is illegal to bring that into the stadium." So yeah, I made a decision to not participate in that project. Lot of good it did, as they took the audio, butchered it with camera audio, and didn't give credit. So I'll agree with you in principle Rick, I don't own the audio and once I release it, ultimately I have no control. Nothing I can do in regards to U2Brazil's crappy actions other than casually insult them online.
You do identify the broader issue--it's stupid to insult and dishonor basic taper requests for multiple reasons. I do think we're on the same wavelength there.
Originally posted by hoserama:Stupidity I guess. Both romulobortolozzo and vetri said they wouldn't use my audio, which of course ended up being a lie. At the end of the day, I don't regret releasing it, but the actions by U2BR certainly irritated me enough that I held back on releasing any other Brazilian 2017 shows, and talked another taper out of releasing their audience recordings (yes, I know that's petty).
Originally posted by hoserama:[..]
Generally in agreement with Rick's statements. Just wanted to add something here where we might disagree. In general I do think it diminishes the audio, if not at least diminishes the hard work that went into it. But I know I'm a bit fussy on stuff like that, so I do see your point.
It's funny--I did give permission to Vetri back in the day to use some of my 2011 stuff for a compilation he did. Then I saw some of his work, and especially the misaligned janky Vancouver 2015 release he did. Prior to Brazil 2017, I reached out to see if they were planning on doing a coordinated audio/video for those shows. I was told it would only be cell phone videos, and nobody was running an audio rig because "it is illegal to bring that into the stadium." So yeah, I made a decision to not participate in that project. Lot of good it did, as they took the audio, butchered it with camera audio, and didn't give credit. So I'll agree with you in principle Rick, I don't own the audio and once I release it, ultimately I have no control. Nothing I can do in regards to U2Brazil's crappy actions other than casually insult them online.
You do identify the broader issue--it's stupid to insult and dishonor basic taper requests for multiple reasons. I do think we're on the same wavelength there.