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  1. Then why not wait a while until we have them? Double compression does nasty things to sound.
  2. Because we need it now! Waiting is for chumps!
  3. not really, but why wait? it's actual now, the longer you wait the less value it has. Yes, you can argue about the lossy format and that its not the best possible version, but unlike you, many people (including me) are really happy with it. Certainly at this point. In 3 years time, when we maybe have some of your perfect mixes and/or others, not many will care about these paris iem's anymore.
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  5. Originally posted by Ricku2:Certainly at this point. In 3 years time, when we maybe have some of your perfect mixes and/or others, not many will care about these paris iem's anymore.


    be prepared to care about those for a long time ...
  6. no problem, good to have a person like you in control of future IEM uploads. We'll see what happens. I decided not to IEM tape this tour, so clearly I can live without them. And I'm sure many can. If people want to upload their recording, without making big dramas, I really like that. If people don't want to, that's fine for me too, as long as they don't make big dramas out of it.
  7. Again, we could argue about releasing IEM recordings mid-tour in another thread. I think it's short-sighted, and I've been guilty of doing it in the past. So I'll own my part.

    That said--I listened to the feed that was posted from Paris 2. What sort of stereo effect was done for this? Sounds like the low-mids are 15% panned to the left, and the highs are panned to the right, and maybe another section of the highs are panned left? Sounds whacky.
  8. Originally posted by hoserama:[...] That said--I listened to the feed that was posted from Paris 2. What sort of stereo effect was done for this? Sounds like the low-mids are 15% panned to the left, and the highs are panned to the right, and maybe another section of the highs are panned left? Sounds whacky.
    Seriously, I have no idea how that happened - I did notice it too but by then I had already made too many clean-ups to go back and have it released still before tea (which was sort of part of the whole idea, as Achtungpop explained somewhere above).

    And, to be totally honest here with you, ‘raw’ IEM’s have always sounded pretty funky to me so that’s why I only realized later that something odd had occurred in the "dubbing" of the so-called bono-iem (which was on the right channel only). But I have to admit that I also kinda liked the wacky sound better then the initial ‘raw’ bono-iem. And, too, since it was still the lossy feed only, I figured that it was better to get it right with the lossless pull.
  9. I don't like IEM recordings and therefore haven't heard it, but there still should be an effort made to produce something that is the best it can be. "As good as possible" is better than "as soon as possible".
  10. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    Seriously, I have no idea how that happened - I did notice it too but by then I had already made too many clean-ups to go back and have it released still before tea (which was sort of part of the whole idea, as Achtungpop explained somewhere above).

    And, to be totally honest here with you, ‘raw’ IEM’s have always sounded pretty funky to me so that’s why I only realized later that something odd had occurred in the "dubbing" of the so-called bono-iem (which was on the right channel only). But I have to admit that I also kinda liked the wacky sound better then the initial ‘raw’ bono-iem. And, too, since it was still the lossy feed only, I figured that it was better to get it right with the lossless pull.

    It's bizarre. See the picture I took. That's a spatial analysis, so you see an odd spread of frequencies along the stereo field. I had wondered if it was a stereo plug-in that you did, perhaps by accident?

    Again, I'm going to politely disagree with the urge to release it quickly. Why not wait a bit to get a better quality at least? Quality control and all that...
  11. Originally posted by hoserama:[..]
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    It's bizarre. See the picture I took. That's a spatial analysis, so you see an odd spread of frequencies along the stereo field. I had wondered if it was a stereo plug-in that you did, perhaps by accident?

    Again, I'm going to politely disagree with the urge to release it quickly. Why not wait a bit to get a better quality at least? Quality control and all that...
    The thing at the end are probably the e-stage songs, which already have a different mix in the feed to begin with
    (I did not need to boost the bass there.)

    I have not used any stereo effect what so ever. What might have happened is that one or two equalizer runs have been applied to one channel. This I can test by dubbing one channel once again.
  12. Originally posted by hoserama:Again, we could argue about releasing IEM recordings mid-tour in another thread. I think it's short-sighted, and I've been guilty of doing it in the past. So I'll own my part.

    yes, people have been guilty of that for over 15 years and now some genius has decided that we should wait until the tour is over. Short sighted is a nice term to throw in the discussion, but I'm still missing convincing arguments. We've already had that discussion last year on pm, so for me no need to do it all over, but in every IEM topic you're feeding the discussion again. People not sharing their IEM's might become an even bigger problem. In Amsterdam there were at least 6 IEM tapers in the building with multiple recorders. Thats one of the reasons I backed out. I think that mass taping might be a much bigger threath for the open IEM system. I dont think sharing is, I think U2 likes the spirit of sharing recordings even a couple of IEM's. As long as they don't come of bad.