1. i've checked through all of 1981 and just started doing the war tour. Trying to do the ones where i know i have a lot of cassettes also so planning on 1986/1987 after this.
  2. 81 and 83 checked with notes. I'll do 1987 next.

    https://we.tl/t-8pageLwo8F

    If anyone feels like having a go at zoo and pop I don't have sufficient cassettes of those to do it justice. You probably need a copy of pimm's book handy and ideally matt's as well.
  3. thanks for all the input
    1/ for sure there are bogus dates like Koln 21-7-1981 - I left the dates as I collected them, mayeb someone can shine a light on some
    2/ quality is what I judged at the time, some of those tapes I have not listened to for decades most likely & as recordings got better through time, my feeling is I may have slightly over-rated the older ones ( yes 10 = highest quality )
    3/ I'll definitely do some converting myself once I am set up, but I might send a batch out to people who offered me help. The one risk of loosing them along the way scares me a bit, and sending each time 10-20 tapes sounds a bit stupid
    4 once we have gone through the list I think it is best to put priorities together and then let's start the work
  4. Vara studio's in Groningen.. would be interesting to see how that mislabeling did occur.. clearly Vera and Vara are not that different, but the name you came up with is something totally different (Vara studio's should be somewhere in Hilversum, next to the KRO studios they played on the 14th). I can see the logic, but logic doesn't always deliver the right facts.
    About the list; I think the radio and tv interviews are probably the most interesting things, most of the other recordings are probably already circulating, I wouldn't put too much time in sorting that out.
  5. But it's not necessarily his naming. Wayback at that time the ability to check things like that was far less than the quick google it is now not to mention the people who did it deliberately to make it look like they had something different. He's got so many tapes it's not possible that he's listened to a lot of them in many many years - I'm in the same situation. I still open old boxes and find stuff I'd completely forgot about and I've spent a lot of the last three and a half years converting cassettes most of which certainly haven't circulated or have been upgrades to what did. I hope people offer to help him. It's a daunting, time consuming job, there are no short cuts through it and it's beyond generous to offer them up rather than just sit back. Personally I'm happy to put the time in to help prioritise. I've been doing this for 40 years before long and I still find it fascinating.
  6. Originally posted by eddiemonsoon:But it's not necessarily his naming. Wayback at that time the ability to check things like that was far less than the quick google it is now not to mention the people who did it deliberately to make it look like they had something different. He's got so many tapes it's not possible that he's listened to a lot of them in many many years - I'm in the same situation. I still open old boxes and find stuff I'd completely forgot about and I've spent a lot of the last three and a half years converting cassettes most of which certainly haven't circulated or have been upgrades to what did. I hope people offer to help him. It's a daunting, time consuming job, there are no short cuts through it and it's beyond generous to offer them up rather than just sit back. Personally I'm happy to put the time in to help prioritise. I've been doing this for 40 years before long and I still find it fascinating.
    that's why I said it would be interesting to see how it went from Vera to Vara studio's... not saying it's his fault.. it's not even important, it's just funny to see (at least for someone who lives in Groningen).. and probably an indication that this is not a very low generation copy..
    I also did a bit of tape trading in the 90's, still got the tapes (maybe around 100), as it's hard to just throw them away, but I wouldn't mind if they just secretly disappeared.. they are totally useless as the recordings that are circulating now (CD-R, flac or even mp3) are probably all better quality.. and unless Gerd traded directly with tapers (and/or is a taper himself) there are probably not many gems in his tape collection as well..
    Surely his offer is very generous.. but apart from a few radio shows I doubt there are many upgrades to already circulating recordings.. anyway, impressive collection, all collected the old fashioned way
  7. Originally posted by Ricku2:[..]
    the recordings that are circulating now (CD-R, flac or even mp3) are probably all better quality.. and unless Gerd traded directly with tapers (and/or is a taper himself) there are probably not many gems in his tape collection as well..
    Surely his offer is very generous.. but apart from a few radio shows I doubt there are many upgrades to already circulating recordings..


    Not remotely true. All the recordings on here are neither direct from the taper or low generation, a lot are but that's down to people putting work in, As i've proved in the last few months there are upgrades out there in cassette collections. I just dropped a few more potential ones off the other day and I've a decent amount more ready to drop off when they are ready and more to do. Based on my personal experience (especially with my Police tapes) it's impossible to believe that in a collection of that size there aren't any up grades or something uncirculated - even if there's only a total of 20 out of 1000. If unknown tapes can turn up 40 years after the event as they did before christmas then anything is possible.
  8. maybe there are a few yes, maybe a few small upgrades, but is that worth all the effort of sorting 1000 tapes out? Also the u2start archive is missing lots of recordings and upgrades.. if that's the measure, maybe we first should get that one up to date..
  9. We'll have to agree to differ or else that calls into question every saturday and sunday morning of the 1980's for me.
  10. maybe another idea : are there any shows that miss songs - are incomplete that you know off, maybe worth prioritsing those
  11. Originally posted by KTM3:maybe another idea : are there any shows that miss songs - are incomplete that you know off, maybe worth prioritsing those
    you should check out u2torrents, over there you can download entire packages of separate tours, with the most common recordings.. what took you several years to collect you can just download over there in a couple of hours/days. All organized with info files etc... there's probably a bit more circulating, but I guess those package contain at least 80% of what is out there...

    it looks like this:

    u21979-06-00.shnf - Dublin (Bono Works at McGonagles)
    u21979-10-05.flacf - Cork (Live At Cork Opera House)
    u21979-10-05.flacf - Cork (Live At Cork Opera House, speedfix)
    u21980-02-26.flacf - Dublin (Dark And Day - The Early Years 1978-1980)
    u21980-02-26.flacf - Dublin (FM Radio 2nd Generation)
    u21980-02-26.flacf - Dublin (Red Devil RDO35-1, EAC)
    u21980-02-26.shnf - Dublin (My Hometown)
    u21980-03-02.flacf - Tullamore (Garden of Remembrance - Definitive Edition)
    u21980-03-02.flacf - Tullamore (Garden Of Remembrance, master from taper)
    u21980-03-02.shnf - Tullamore]
    u21980-05-11.flacf - Tullamore (We'll Beat Big Tom Yet!)
    u21980-07-27.flacf - Dublin (Dublin Festival 1980)
    u21980-07-27.flacf - Dublin (including London - 1980-09-07)
    u21980-07-27.shnf - Dublin (3rd generation)
    u21980-09-01.shnf - London (Richard Skinner Session)
    u21980-09-07.flacf - London (2nd Source)
    u21980-09-07.flacf - London (Lyceum)
    u21980-09-12.apef - Scarborough (Taboo Club)
    u21980-09-12.flacf - Scarborough]
    u21980-09-12.flacf - Scarborough (Taboo Club, 2)
    u21980-10-14.flacf - Hilversum (Gloria Volume 1)
    u21980-10-14.flacf - Hilversum (Touch)
    u21980-10-14.shnf - Hilversum (KRO Studios)
    u21980-10-14.shnf - Hilversum (KRO Studios, Holland)
    u21980-10-15.flacf - Amsterdam]
    u21980-10-15.flacf - Amsterdam (The Milky - something tapes)
    u21980-10-16.flacf - Groningen (LDB Special Series #438)
    u21980-10-16.flacf - Groningen (Upgrade)
    u21980-10-16.shnf - Groningen]
    u21980-10-16.shnf - Groningen (Incomplete, 3rd Gen)
    u21980-11-11.flacf - Cantenbury (father is an elephant)
    u21980-11-11.flacf - Canterbury]
    u21980-11-11.flacf - Canterbury (Kent University, 2)
    u21980-11-13.flacf - Sheffield (Limit Club)
    u21980-11-21.flacf - Edinburgh]
    u21980-11-28.flacf - Birmingham]
    u21980-12-03.apef - Paris (Audience Recording)
    u21980-12-03.flacf - Paris (First In France)
    u21980-12-04.flacf - Paris (Nogent sur Marne Pavillon Baltard)
    u21980-12-13.flacf - Boston]
    u21980-12-13.shnf - Boston (Like Going Home)
    u21980-12-13.shnf - Boston (Paradise Theater)
    u21981-01-23.apef - Belfast]
    u21981-01-23.flacf - Belfast (Belfast Boy, Broadcast)
    u21981-01-23.flacf - Belfast (LDB Special Series #144 (S&C))
    u21981-01-23.flacf - Belfast (vhs-master)
    u21981-01-24.flacf - Glasgow (Strathclyde University)
    u21981-01-29.flacf - Northampton (Boy Northampton)
    u21981-01-29.flacf - Northampton (Iron Horse, UAG)
    u21981-02-01.flacf - London]
    u21981-02-01.flacf - London (All Along The Watchtower)
    u21981-02-10.flacf - Brussels (UAG)
    u21981-02-10.shnf - Brussels (Broadcast UDG)
    u21981-02-12.flacf - Den Haag (FM Rebroadcast Cable)
    u21981-02-12.shnf - Den Haag (I'm just waking up!)
    u21981-02-12.shnf - Den Haag (Soundcheck)
    u21981-02-15.flacf - Hamburg (Back through the mirror (Silver CD))
    u21981-02-15.shnf - Hamburg (Back Through the Mirror)
    u21981-02-18.shnf - Munich (The Sugar Shack, Incomplete)
    u21981-03-03.flacf - Washington (Born On The Bayou, GFR)
    u21981-03-03.flacf - Washington DC (Bayou Club - Soundboard)
    u21981-03-03.flacf - Washington DC (Forget The Other Groups, Remember U2)
    u21981-03-03.flacf - Washington DC (The Bayou, thir13en Remaster)
    u21981-03-04.flacf - Philadelphia (Bijou Club)
    u21981-03-04.flacf - Philadelphia (Boy Philadelphia)
    u21981-03-07.flacf - New York]
    u21981-03-14.flacf - San Diego (UAG)
    u21981-03-15.flacf - Resada (RG, Master)
    u21981-03-15.shnf - Resada (The Ides Of March)
    u21981-03-18.flacf - San Jose (JM, 1st gen conversion)
    u21981-03-20.flacf - San Francisco (Phil Saltonstall)
    u21981-03-20.flacf - San Francisco (The Waldorf, Night 2)
    u21981-03-20.flacf - San Francisco (Twilight At The Old Waldorf)
    u21981-03-28.flacf - Denver (Rainbow Music Hall)
    u21981-03-28.flacf - Denver (Rainbow Music Hall, Soundboard)
    u21981-04-06.flacf - Kansas City (Too Young To Drink, 2nd remaster)
    u21981-04-06.shnf - Kansas City]
    u21981-04-06.shnf - Kansas City (We Come From Dublin)
    u21981-04-07.flacf - St. Louis]
    u21981-04-07.flacf - St. Louis (Boy St. Louis)
    u21981-04-09.flacf - Minneapolis (Minnesota Mike, Sony TC-D5, Shure SM57)
    u21981-04-09.flacf - Minneapolis (Remaster)
    u21981-04-09.flacf - Minneapolis (Were Called U2)
    u21981-04-09.shnf - Minneapolis (EAC, no log)
    u21981-04-11 flacf - Chicago (Free Beer For All)
    u21981-04-12.flacf - Chicago (UAG)
    u21981-04-12.shnf - Chicago (The Music and Words of U2)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit]
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (I Fall Down)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (JEMS, Sony TCM - 600, Teac M - 100)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (Sony Dictation & Teac Mics 0)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (Sony Dictation & Teac Mics 1)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (Sony Dictation & Teac Mics 2)
    u21981-04-18.flacf - Detroit (Sony Dictation & Teac Mics 2009 version)
    u21981-04-21.flacf - Pittsburgh]
    u21981-04-21.flacf - Pittsburgh (2nd generation)
    u21981-05-08.flacf - New Orleans (New Orleans Boys)
    u21981-05-08.flacf - New Orleans 1981]
    u21981-05-09.flacf - Memphis (Poets)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (FM Repaired)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (FM)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (Lost Broadcasts Vol. 2 Remastered)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (Messing Around With Champagne, Pre FM-FM-Matrix)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (Rainbow Music Hall)
    u21981-05-11.flacf - Denver (Rainbow Music Hall, Master Reel Source)
    u21981-05-15.flacf - San Francisco]
    u21981-05-15.flacf - San Francisco (Upgrade)
    u21981-05-27.flacf - New Heaven (RS-686, CM300, Master)
    u21981-05-27.shnf - New Haven (D5 Master)
    u21981-05-27.shnf - New Haven (I'm A Believer)
    u21981-05-27.shnf - New Haven (I'm A Believer, Remastered)
    u21981-05-28.flacf - Boston]
    u21981-05-28.flacf - Boston (The Metro)
    u21981-05-28.flacf - Boston (The Metro, 2nd Gen CDR)
    u21981-05-28.flacf - Boston (TW, WMD6, ECM929)
    u21981-05-29.flacf - New York]
    u21981-05-29.shnf - New York (Little White Rats (aka Heath St. Tape #4) )
    u21981-05-30.shnf - New York (The Tomorrow Show)
    u21981-06-08.flacf - Geleen (Pictures In Grey)
    u21981-06-08.shnf - Geleen (Pinkpop)
    u21981-06-09.flacf - London (Carry Us Home)
    u21981-08-16.shnf - Dublin (Same Song, Different Words)
    u21981-08-19.flacf - London (BBC Radio 1 Interview with Bono and Adam)
    u21981-08-23.flacf - London (At The Beeb)
    u21981-08-23.flacf - London (Paris Cinema Studio, Master)
    u21981-08-23.shnf - London (EAC)
    u21981-08-29.flacf - Gateshead]
    u21981-08-29.flacf - Gateshead (AIWA+mic)
    u21981-08-30.flacf - Odell]
    u21981-08-30.flacf - Odell Castle (UAG)
    u21981-08-31.shnf - Edinburgh]

    u21981-10-02.flacf - Nottingham (Rock City)
    u21981-10-03.apef - Salford
    u21981-10-03.flacf - Salford (UAG)
    u21981-10-03.shnf - Salford (War)
    u21981-10-04.flacf - Glasgow (Twilight Complete)
    u21981-10-06.shnf - Coventry
    u21981-10-07.flacf - Leicester (October Leicester)
    u21981-10-08.flacf - Sheffield
    u21981-10-10.flacf - Liverpool
    u21981-10-10.flacf - Liverpool (UAG)
    u21981-10-12.flacf - Brighton (LDB Special Series #92)
    u21981-10-12.flacf - Brighton (Top Rank version 2)
    u21981-10-12.flacf - Brighton (Top Rank)
    u21981-10-14.apef - London (BBC Radio Session)
    u21981-10-14.flacf - London (BBC - Jensen Session - alternate source)
    u21981-10-14.shnf - London (BBC Radio Session)
    u21981-10-18.flacf - Bristol
    u21981-10-18.flacf - Bristol (Stories For Bristol)
    u21981-10-19.flacf - Birmingham
    u21981-10-19.flacf - Birmingham (UAG)
    u21981-10-20.flacf - Leeds (October Leeds)
    u21981-10-21.flacf - Hempstead (October Hempstead)
    u21981-10-26.flacf - Paris (FM)
    u21981-10-26.flacf - Paris (Yauckt Recording)
    u21981-10-30.flacf - Amsterdam (1st Gen Master Analog Tape)
    u21981-10-30.flacf - Amsterdam (FM 1989 Re-Broadcast)
    u21981-10-30.shnf - Amsterdam (Stereo FM Recording)
    u21981-10-30.shnf - Amsterdam (The Lost Broadcasts Vol. 2, Broadcast - silver CD)
    u21981-11-03.flacf - Hamburg
    u21981-11-03.flacf - Hamburg (Fabrik LDB Special Series #89)
    u21981-11-03.flacf - Hamburg (Riot In Hamburg)
    u21981-11-03.flacf - Hamburg (S&C 2)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (Berlin)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (Boygroup Silver (EAC, no log))
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (Boygroup)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (RockPalast)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (TV Broadcast 90's)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Berlin (VHS possible master)
    u21981-11-04.flacf - Glasgow (October Glasgow)
    u21981-11-13.flacf - Albany (J.B.SCOTT, Boys To Men)
    u21981-11-13.flacf - Albany (We Nearly Live Here)
    u21981-11-13.shnf - Albany (We Nearly Live Here)
    u21981-11-14.flacf - Boston (Darren Glenn Remaster)
    u21981-11-14.flacf - Boston (Stories For Boston - pre-fm & stereo Fradoca remaster)
    u21981-11-14.flacf - Boston (WBCN-FM re-broadcast)
    u21981-11-14.shnf - Boston (Black Cat In Boston)
    u21981-11-14.shnf - Boston (Stories For Boston - pre-fm & stereo)
    u21981-11-15.flacf - New Haven
    u21981-11-15.flacf - New Haven (Low gen, No DAE)
    u21981-11-15.flacf - New Haven (RS-686, CM300 First Gen)
    u21981-11-18.flacf - Philadelphia
    u21981-11-18.flacf - Philadelphia (Version 2)
    u21981-11-22.flacf - New York (Last Night At The Ritz EAC)
    u21981-11-22.shnf - New York (Gloria Vol. 3 (EAC))
    u21981-11-22.shnf - New York (Gloria Volume 3)
    u21981-11-22.shnf - New York (Last night at the ritz)
    u21981-11-25.flacf - Asbury Park
    u21981-11-25.flacf - Asbury Park (October Ashbury Park)
    u21981-11-25.flacf - Asbury Park (Version 2)
    u21981-11-28.flacf - Los Angeles (An Evening With U2 remaster)
    u21981-11-28.flacf - Los Angeles (FM master tape)
    u21981-11-28.flacf - Los Angeles (fm remaster)
    u21981-11-28.flacf - Los Angeles (fm)
    u21981-11-28.flacf - Los Angeles (LDB Special Series #247)
    u21981-11-28.shnf - Los Angeles (An Evening With U2)
    u21981-11-29.flacf - San Francisco
    u21981-11-29.flacf - San Francisco (Live In San Francisco)
    u21981-11-29.flacf - San Francisco (S&C)
    u21981-11-29.flacf - San Francisco (Warfield)
    u21981-12-01.flacf - Atlanta (Boys In Atlanta)
    u21981-12-01.flacf - Atlanta (UAG)
    u21981-12-04.flacf - Detroit (2)
    u21981-12-04.flacf - Detroit (JEMS Master, Sony TCM-600, Teac M-100)
    u21981-12-04.flacf - Detroit (Let's Go, Detroit!)
    u21981-12-04.flacf - Detroit (S&C)
    u21981-12-05.flacf - Grand Rapids (October Grand Rapids)
    u21981-12-06.flacf - London (Red Light)
    u21981-12-08.apef - Cleveland (The Agora 81)
    u21981-12-08.flacf - Cleveland (WMMS FM Broadcast)
    u21981-12-08.shnf - Cleveland (Agora Ballroom)
    u21981-12-10.flacf - Buffalo
    u21981-12-11.flacf - Washington D.C
    u21981-12-11.flacf - Washington D.C. (BPThree, Sony TC-1100T,Sony ECM-16)
    u21981-12-13.flacf - Lido Beach (Reel 2 Reel)
    u21981-12-13.flacf - Lido Beach (WLIR Live FM Broadcast)
    u21981-12-13.shnf - Lido Beach (Malibu Beach Club)
    u21981-12-20.flacf - London
    u21981-12-20.flacf - London (Into The Heart, Vinyl. UAG)
    u21981-12-20.flacf - London (mb)
    u21981-12-21.flacf - London
    u21981-12-21.flacf - London (mb)
    u21982-02-11.flacf - New Orleans (low gen aud)
    u21982-02-11.flacf - New Orleans (Riverboat President EAC)
    u21982-02-19.flacf - St Louis
    u21982-02-21.flacf - Minneapolis
    u21982-02-21.flacf - Minneapolis (UAG)
    u21982-02-23.apef - Champaign
    u21982-02-23.flacf - Champaign (Urbana, 3rd gen cassette)
    u21982-03-04.flacf - West Palm Beach
    u21982-03-05.flacf - Tampa
    u21982-03-05.flacf - Tampa (Partial)
    u21982-03-05.flacf - Tampa (UAG, Complete)
    u21982-03-11.flacf - Atlanta (Civic Center)
    u21982-03-14.flacf - Indianapolis (Indy Convention Center, AUD 3rd Gen)
    u21982-03-14.shnf - Indianapolis (Convention Center)
    u21982-03-17.apef - New York (St. Patrick's Day)
    u21982-03-17.flacf - New York (SBD)
    u21982-03-17.flacf - New York (Soundboard)
    u21982-03-17.flacf - New York (St. Patrick's Day)
    u21982-03-18.shnf - New York
    u21982-03-18.shnf - New York (D6, ECM-929 replace S&C d2t7)
    u21982-03-18.shnf - New York (S&C)
    u21982-03-30.flacf - San Francisco (Jimmy Mansinello, 1st gen)
    u21982-05-00.shnf - London (Get Set for Summer)
    u21982-05-14.flacf - Hattem (Analog Soundboard)
    u21982-05-14.flacf - Hattem (Man)
    u21982-05-14.flacf - Hattem (Soundcheck)
    u21982-05-14.flacf - Hattem (VPRO FM, LDB Special Series #225)
    u21982-05-14.shnf - Hattem
    u21982-07-01.flacf - Leiden
    u21982-07-01.flacf - Leiden (Groenoordhallen)
    u21982-07-01.flacf - Leiden (UDG)
    u21982-07-02.flacf - Roskilde (Festivalen Roskilde)
    u21982-07-04.flacf - Werchter (Broadcast, KRO Rocktemple)
    u21982-07-04.flacf - Werchter (Radio Broadcast KRO)
    u21982-07-04.flacf - Werchter (Radio Broadcast)
    u21982-07-04.shnf - Werchter (Dutch Radio)
    u21982-07-04.shnf - Werchter (SBD)
    u21982-07-04.shnf - Werchter (Werchter Festival)
    u21982-07-18.apef - Dublin
    u21982-07-18.flacf - Dublin
    u21982-07-18.flacf - Dublin (October Dublin)
    u21982-07-18.flacf - Dublin (Punchestown Racecourse LDB Special Series #123)
    u21982-07-18.flacf - Dublin (Soundboard)
    u21982-07-31.flacf - Gateshead
    u21982-07-31.flacf - Gateshead (Malcom Beaton, Aiwa, Casio Mics)
    u21982-07-31.shnf - Gateshead (White Flags On Stage)
    u21982-08-07.flacf - Turku
    u21982-08-07.flacf - Turku (Ruisrock Festival)
    u21982-08-07.flacf - Turku (Version 2)