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Different Live Versions of LIB and BTBS

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posted by dieder (Member) on 2008-09-12 07:55 pm quote

Originally posted by MWSAH:
Speaking of BTBS, the one from Rotterdam'92 is slightly different too, and extended. Just great..


great version but I donīt like the sound of Bono that song. With that voice transformer or so.

posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 12:46 am quote

The definitive versions of these 2 songs, in my opinion,are on the Stay single.

For Elevation Bullet, either the Boston version for the Mark Chapman version or a post 9/11 NY show

posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-09-13 12:50 am quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
The definitive versions of these 2 songs, in my opinion,are on the Stay single.

For Elevation Bullet, either the Boston version for the Mark Chapman version or a post 9/11 NY show

Erm...Mark Chapman?

I agree that the Dublin BTBS from the Stay single IS good, but I'd still say the versions from Paris or Dortmund '92 beat it. That said, I'm biased lol.

posted by easports43 (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 12:52 am quote

Originally posted by WojBhoy:
[..]
Erm...Mark Chapman?


I was wondering the same lol...

Originally posted by WojBhoy:

I agree that the Dublin BTBS from the Stay single IS good, but I'd still say the versions from Paris or Dortmund '92 beat it. That said, I'm biased lol.


Paris, OK, yes I agree that beats Dublin. But Dortmund? Not so sure about that one...

posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 12:56 am quote

"Pull the trigger, rock 'n' roll n********"
"What's my name?....Mark Chapman"

Go watch Boston at once.

(He's the guy who shot John Lennon)

Yet to listen to Paris '92.......

posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-09-13 12:57 am quote

Originally posted by easports43:
I was wondering the same lol...

[..]

Paris, OK, yes I agree that beats Dublin. But Dortmund? Not so sure about that one..

The solo dear boy, the solo. I mean, the song itself is performed pretty damned well, but Edge pulls off one hell of a solo (and this is going by ZooTV standards). It was my favourite BTBS until I got hold of the Paris gig...

Originally posted by djrlewis:
"Pull the trigger, rock 'n' roll n********"
"What's my name?....Mark Chapman"

Go watch Boston at once.

(He's the guy who shot John Lennon)
Yet to listen to Paris '92.......

Ahhhhhhh...I never realised that's what he said lol, I always thought he said something like "John shot me!" etc.

As they always say, you learn something new everyday (I knew Mark Chapman was the guy who shot Lennon, but I just wasn't aware that's what Bono says lol...)

posted by easports43 (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 01:00 am quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
"Pull the trigger, rock 'n' roll n********"
"What's my name?....Mark Chapman"

Go watch Boston at once.

(He's the guy who shot John Lennon)

Yet to listen to Paris '92.......


Ah, OK. Now I've got it...

posted by easports43 (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 01:01 am quote

Originally posted by WojBhoy:
[..]
The solo dear boy, the solo. I mean, the song itself is performed pretty damned well, but Edge pulls off one hell of a solo (and this is going by ZooTV standards). It was my favourite BTBS until I got hold of the Paris gig...



OK, if we're basing it purely on the solo, I'm forced to agree. But overall performance-wise, it's certainly not the "best". All about personal preference though...

posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-09-13 01:07 am quote

Originally posted by easports43:
OK, if we're basing it purely on the solo, I'm forced to agree. But overall performance-wise, it's certainly not the "best". All about personal preference though...

Well, for me, a lot of post-JT BTBSs are about the solo, but that's the guitar player in me getting the better of common sense lol. I have to say, the Wembley shows do rock my socks, with Bono's rants and what have you. A lot of it is also about the guitar part vs. Bono's vocals, hence why I'm not too keen on a lot of Elevation and Vertigo versions - just palm muting Wah-Wah as opposed to the little riffs that Edge played during ZooTV and PopMart renditions, I think there's only one winner.

That said, I watched Slane again today, that is a good performance as is the Boston DVD, but they're nothing more than good in my opinion. JT and LT, they were sticking with the album format, but if you're gonna develop the song into a bit more of a gritty live entity, it needs a bit more than an alternative solo in my view...

posted by easports43 (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 01:12 am quote

Originally posted by WojBhoy:
[..]
Well, for me, a lot of post-JT BTBSs are about the solo, but that's the guitar player in me getting the better of common sense lol. I have to say, the Wembley shows do rock my socks, with Bono's rants and what have you. A lot of it is also about the guitar part vs. Bono's vocals, hence why I'm not too keen on a lot of Elevation and Vertigo versions - just palm muting Wah-Wah as opposed to the little riffs that Edge played during ZooTV and PopMart renditions, I think there's only one winner.

That said, I watched Slane again today, that is a good performance as is the Boston DVD, but they're nothing more than good in my opinion. JT and LT, they were sticking with the album format, but if you're gonna develop the song into a bit more of a gritty live entity, it needs a bit more than an alternative solo in my view...


haha. What's funny is that I've always hated the palm muting wah-wah bit. It's almost as if Edge felt he couldn't top ZOO/Popmart....

I will say I'm not a huge fan of the JT or LT versions....although the Star Spangled Banner was cool. R & H is really the only pre-zoo version I like other than the album version of course.

posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 01:14 am quote

Thus ends Harry's thesis on BTBS ......

Can you do that for every song?

posted by easports43 (Crew member) on 2008-09-13 01:19 am quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
Thus ends Harry's thesis on BTBS ......

Can you do that for every song?


Maybe we need a song review option for him

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