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germcevoy
Dalton Brother
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Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Slow Dancing
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Originally posted by haytrain:
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It's crazy how fast the delay adds up, isn't it?
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apparently it's as much as 20 seconds in some venues. The O2 arena in London has a 2 second delay from mic or pick up to PA and thats considered world class
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haytrain
Native Son
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Location: Hollywood //// Song of the Moment: WALK ON
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
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apparently it's as much as 20 seconds in some venues. The O2 arena in London has a 2 second delay from mic or pick up to PA and thats considered world class
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It reminds me of that story someone posted about when they got to play Party Girl with the band and she said Bono shouted that in her ear while they were playing...about how much delay there is and how you can't listen to what you hear over the PA.
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germcevoy
Dalton Brother
Posts: 10765
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Slow Dancing
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Originally posted by haytrain:
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It reminds me of that story someone posted about when they got to play Party Girl with the band and she said Bono shouted that in her ear while they were playing...about how much delay there is and how you can't listen to what you hear over the PA.
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IEM's have other uses then than making recordings that make my ears bleed
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haytrain
Native Son
Posts: 3489
Location: Hollywood //// Song of the Moment: WALK ON
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
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IEM's have other uses then than making recordings that make my ears bleed
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Haha
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Blue_Room
Zoo Baby
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Ok, got the above link to work.
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drewhiggins
Native Son
Posts: 3956
Location: Adelaide // AoTW: Invincible
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The Saitama 2006-12-04 IEM wasn't too bad - I think it was my first IEM and having never heard one before. But the Elevation ones were nothing short of horrible. As long as the click-track isn't too overpowering, that's fine, but when you can hear the clicking even in the loudest parts of the performance, then that's not cool.
Originally posted by germcevoy:
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I think there are devices out there that can latch on to the IEM frequency and record what it its transmitting. Just like a recording from the radio. I stand to be corrected though. . . .and they sound shit
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Originally posted by http://www.audiovisualdevices.com.au:
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The MI808R UHF stereo body pack receiver is frequency agile over a 24MHz bandwidth with 16 selecable pre-programmed frequencies. It utilises advanced dual-antenna true diversity technology that eliminates signal dropouts and enhances signal stability. This high quality receiver operates in user selectable mono or stereo output modes and features a lightweight, exceptionally durable alloy case making it the perfect choice for IEM systems in todays pro-audio applications.
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I'd say that would be the kind of thing that they're using?
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Blue_Room
Zoo Baby
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Originally posted by drewhiggins:
The Saitama 2006-12-04 IEM wasn't too bad - I think it was my first IEM and having never heard one before. But the Elevation ones were nothing short of horrible. As long as the click-track isn't too overpowering, that's fine, but when you can hear the clicking even in the loudest parts of the performance, then that's not cool.
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Actually, that is one I don't really care for all that much. Bono's vocals are sort of piercing and flat on it.
People complain about the metronome (clicking) sometimes. But honestly, to me, once the music kicks in it just blends with the music. Whats the difference in that and Larry tapping the cymbals in time? Nothing. Quiet parts, it can be prevelant sometimes, but otherwise its not.
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drewhiggins
Native Son
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Location: Adelaide // AoTW: Invincible
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The quiet parts are the ones that are the worst in those recordings. But like you say when the recording is loud, you don't really notice it, unless you're trying to. I'm listening to that Saitama IEM right now (Bad), and I can hardly hear it, if at all over the cymbals.
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Ali709
Wild Honey
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Location: Tehran, Iran // AS: SCA(RED)
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Originally posted by germcevoy:
the IEM's also help Bono out when he's on the B-stage. He can keep time with the band as they are playing and not as he is hearing (there would be a great delay from instrument, mixing desk, PA, Bonoo
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B-Man's doing a tough job there then...and he's mostly on the b-stage 
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wtshnnfb01
Party Girl
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Location: Where The Streets Have No Name
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Logically they probally erase old soundboards. Employees who are fans of the band that played spare them. Just my theory.
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germcevoy
Dalton Brother
Posts: 10765
Location: Ireland - Song of The Week : Slow Dancing
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Originally posted by Blue_Room:
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Whats the difference in that and Larry tapping the cymbals in time? Nothing.
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Huge for me. Larry is a drummer so he's meant to tap the cymbal. The IEM click track isn't a part of the listening experience for me when listening to IEM recordings hence I don't like nor listen to the buggers.
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