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Nikki and Dan's Veterinary Topic

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posted by wtshnnfb01 (Member) on 2008-04-01 10:11 pm quote

Well my other cat who we got declawed at the time had her paws poorly sewed up, and almost bleed to death. One is an accident. Two is shitty business practices.

posted by haytrain (Crew member) on 2008-04-01 10:15 pm quote

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:
Well my other cat who we got declawed at the time had her paws poorly sewed up, and almost bleed to death. One is an accident. Two is shitty business practices.


So go to a different vet.

posted by wtshnnfb01 (Member) on 2008-04-01 10:17 pm quote

That we did.

posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-04-02 08:21 am quote

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:
Well my other cat who we got declawed at the time had her paws poorly sewed up, and almost bleed to death. One is an accident. Two is shitty business practices.


Well at least that could never happen over here - declawing cats is illegal. Barbaric as well as it goes, but certainly illegal.

posted by Angel_or_Devil (Member) on 2008-04-02 01:00 pm quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
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Honest to God, I have no idea. It;s a cliche but I've wanted to do this since early school days. Never contemplated anything else. Definitely not a mechanic I'm afraid, I'm clueless with these things!!


That must be cool, my career aspirations change every week, wish i had a vocation. A few more vet questions:

How do u treat fish? do u treat fish? it must be tricky if u do, with them being in water.

I assume you have had to put down some animals, does it affect you? I've had a couple of pets over the years that have had to been put down. Now i have decided not to get anymore pets.

Do u reckon you could have made it as a doctor/surgeon mentally, is it much the same as a vet?


posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-04-02 04:42 pm quote

Originally posted by Angel_or_Devil:
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That must be cool, my career aspirations change every week, wish i had a vocation. A few more vet questions:

How do u treat fish? do u treat fish? it must be tricky if u do, with them being in water.


No idea. No. Yes, I suspect it would

Originally posted by Steve also:
I assume you have had to put down some animals, does it affect you? I've had a couple of pets over the years that have had to been put down. Now i have decided not to get anymore pets.


That's a tricky one to answer. Honestly, most of the time, no. But that is largely because I know that I'm doing it for the right reasons and to ease the suffering of a much loved pet. Plus, I will rarely have the emotional bond with the pet that the owner would. If I've seen a pet a lot - for example for chemotherapy, then it does get harder. I'm not looking forward to the day my dogs and cats need it, that's for sure.

But as part of the job you have to be able to harden and distance yourself to these things, else it would be impossible. And for something you do nearly every day, that wouldn't be good.

Originally posted by Steve:
Do u reckon you could have made it as a doctor/surgeon mentally, is it much the same as a vet?


Technically I could have done the work and would be a surgeon of some sort. But it's never interested me and I don't know if I would be able to face a very different mental challenge like that. I like to think I could, but I don't know.





posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-04-02 06:46 pm quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:

That's a tricky one to answer. Honestly, most of the time, no. But that is largely because I know that I'm doing it for the right reasons and to ease the suffering of a much loved pet. Plus, I will rarely have the emotional bond with the pet that the owner would. If I've seen a pet a lot - for example for chemotherapy, then it does get harder. I'm not looking forward to the day my dogs and cats need it, that's for sure.

But as part of the job you have to be able to harden and distance yourself to these things, else it would be impossible. And for something you do nearly every day, that wouldn't be good.



It honestly never occurred to me that a) animals could contract cancer and b) have treatment for it...



posted by germcevoy (Site manager) on 2008-04-02 06:56 pm quote

Originally posted by WojBhoy:
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It honestly never occurred to me that a) animals could contract cancer and b) have treatment for it...




I'll admit to being have as naive. I knew animals could have cancer (had a dog that died of it) but I never knew about the chemo. It was never offered to us (the dog was 15 so it wouldnt have been worth the money anyways)

posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-04-02 06:58 pm quote

Originally posted by germcevoy:
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I'll admit to being have as naive. I knew animals could have cancer (had a dog that died of it) but I never knew about the chemo. It was never offered to us (the dog was 15 so it wouldnt have been worth the money anyways)


In hindsight, it should have occurred to me that animals can contract it because I remember my grandparents' dog got a cancerous lump on his ear which was inoperable apparently so he had to be put down. Probably explain why I wasn't aware chemotherapy was available, because the option was never mooted...

posted by djrlewis (Crew member) on 2008-04-02 07:09 pm quote

To be picky Harry, you can't contract cancer. It's not contagious or infectious.

Just fucking unlucky.

Dogs will get masses (called neoplasia) just like we can and they are either benign or malignant, again like us. Malignant lumps are capable of something called metastasis (spreading) and when that happens, it's cancer.

Sounds like both of you were very unfortunate with your pets and they had malignant lumps.

Chemo is available but is severely limited in comparison to humans. It's only really appropriate for a handful of situations and even then has limited efficacy (increasing life -expectancy by 1-2 years at best). And it does cost a fortune - £1000-1500 at least for a course.

Life sucks sometimes.

Fortunately, benign lumps that I can do something about are far more common.

posted by WojBhoy (Member) on 2008-04-02 09:49 pm quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
To be picky Harry, you can't contract cancer. It's not contagious or infectious.

Just fucking unlucky.

Dogs will get masses (called neoplasia) just like we can and they are either benign or malignant, again like us. Malignant lumps are capable of something called metastasis (spreading) and when that happens, it's cancer.

Sounds like both of you were very unfortunate with your pets and they had malignant lumps.

Chemo is available but is severely limited in comparison to humans. It's only really appropriate for a handful of situations and even then has limited efficacy (increasing life -expectancy by 1-2 years at best). And it does cost a fortune - £1000-1500 at least for a course.

Life sucks sometimes.

Fortunately, benign lumps that I can do something about are far more common.


cheers Dan, point taken - in fairness I wasn't 100% certain with regard to what other word to use - I had pondered "to develop" but I thought I go ahead with my original intentions, wrong or otherwise - you learn from your mistakes, is it not said?

Being a vet sounds a lot more complicated/diverse than a lot of people seem to think and make out, keep up the good work

posted by tui (Member) on 2008-04-02 10:36 pm quote

Originally posted by djrlewis:
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Dogs will get masses (called neoplasia)


Its that the same for cats and other species aswell? used as a general term?
Reading over that little convo was very interesting, when i was doing work experience the nurse always told me that some owners find it so hard to believe that their beloved pets can develop cancer or have heart disease or diabetes, they think "but those are humans diseases" you know?
it really suprises me,



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