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U2 Meaning Of Lyrics Round Table

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posted by ladygodiva (Member) on 2008-03-07 01:34 am quote

I'm getting warmed up for this one. I'm just jogging around it and listening again and again. That's no hardship because I love it. The Album as a whole now means more to me than it's ever done. It's a work of genius. (I hated it) I must have been so thick (stupid!!!)
Sorry Ali, you might be right and I'm wrong but SUICIDE thoughts Bono?? I really don't think so. But as I have said I may be corrected. I'm hoping to give my full thoughts on this one tomorrow. But I'm 100% sure that I will only be able to scratch the surface of what this song is all about.

see y'all soon folks (that's a clue) Have a look at The Electric Horseman. I dunno............ Maybe.





posted by Ali709 (Member) on 2008-03-07 07:08 am quote

Originally posted by ladygodiva:

Sorry Ali, you might be right and I'm wrong but SUICIDE thoughts Bono?? I really don't think so. But as I have said I may be corrected.


As I said, it's NOT Bono...he is describing suicide thoughts that some celebrities have.

posted by yeah (Member) on 2008-03-07 07:50 am quote

Originally posted by Ali709:
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As I said, it's NOT Bono...he is describing suicide thoughts that some celebrities have.


I think it might be Bono. The fact that he writes a song about suicide doesn't mean that he really thought about it. It's just hypothetical...

posted by Ali709 (Member) on 2008-03-07 07:58 am quote

Originally posted by yeah:
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I think it might be Bono. The fact that he writes a song about suicide doesn't mean that he really thought about it. It's just hypothetical...


well, if he's writing it about himself, hypothetically thinking of suicide, then it's like him writing it about some celebrity who's thinking of suicide. What I meant was that Bono wasn't thinking of suiciding...other than that, it doesn't matter if the person in the song is Bono or not (tho, the "you change your name" bit would go very well with Bono ).

posted by MWSAH (Member) on 2008-03-07 09:11 am quote

Yeah, you're right about suicide..makes more sense with the word Gone too..

posted by yeah (Member) on 2008-03-07 12:12 pm quote

Originally posted by Ali709:
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well, if he's writing it about himself, hypothetically thinking of suicide, then it's like him writing it about some celebrity who's thinking of suicide. .


You certainly have a point there.
I was just surprised that people seem to mask out that Bono might be depressed sometimes, too. It's just human to have these "what if thoughts", so I wouldn't exclude the possibility that Gone is some kind of this.
But that's up to everyone's personal interpretation of course.

posted by Ali709 (Member) on 2008-03-07 12:51 pm quote

Originally posted by yeah:
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You certainly have a point there.
I was just surprised that people seem to mask out that Bono might be depressed sometimes, too. It's just human to have these "what if thoughts", so I wouldn't exclude the possibility that Gone is some kind of this.
But that's up to everyone's personal interpretation of course.


You're right, people do that. I do consider the possibility, but I just thought even if Bono has had these thoughts (and I'm pretty sure he had them), it would have been when he was much younger...the early years, when the success would hit him...or maybe the JT days. He says in U2ByU2 that the song is about this "young man who is a rockstar" (or something similar) ...

It is Bono...but not the 96-97 Bono of Pop, it's a much younger Bono.

posted by JohnnyVOXX (Member) on 2008-03-07 05:45 pm quote

Originally posted by Ali709:
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You're right, people do that. I do consider the possibility, but I just thought even if Bono has had these thoughts (and I'm pretty sure he had them), it would have been when he was much younger...the early years, when the success would hit him...or maybe the JT days. He says in U2ByU2 that the song is about this "young man who is a rockstar" (or something similar) ...

It is Bono...but not the 96-97 Bono of Pop, it's a much younger Bono.


Ali,
Amazing interpretation!!! very good!!
I don't quite agree with you in some points... I don't feel this song as a "suicidal" song... I don't know why, but seems it is.... I'll have to take a closer look, now that I have a different point of view...
cheers!! and thanks!!

posted by kisho8 (Member) on 2008-03-07 09:43 pm quote

Originally posted by Ali709:
Nice posts guys.
My interpretation would be exactly the same as Yeah's, except for the last verse:

You're taking steps that make you feel dizzy / (Gone)
Then you learn to like the way it feels / (Gone)
You hurt yourself you hurt your lover / (Gone)
Then you discover
What you thought was freedom is just greed / (Gone)


I'm sure the last lines are describing suicide (Bono said so himself...somewhere), so I'll interpret the first lines in that context as well:

The whole analysis Yeah mentioned in the song, these are thoughts that "the celebrity" is having (It's not Bono really, he wrote it about any celebrity who's like that), each verse is a step in his thoughts that are leading him to suicide...he keeps thinking about them, they make him feel dizzy but after a while he likes to keep thinking about them, makes him feel pure maybe.

So, he decides to suicide. He hurts himself, and his suicide, hurts his lover. Then (this is actually after death!) he discovers (a very nice word to use here BTW!) that what he thought was freedom (freedom to take his own life), was actually greed (he just wants to break free from the ideas and doesn't think about others and how they feel after he's gone).


Good interpretation it's Only now when this song make sense


posted by Ali709 (Member) on 2008-03-07 10:07 pm quote

Originally posted by JohnnyVOXX:
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Ali,
Amazing interpretation!!! very good!!
I don't quite agree with you in some points... I don't feel this song as a "suicidal" song... I don't know why, but seems it is.... I'll have to take a closer look, now that I have a different point of view...
cheers!! and thanks!!


Bring it on Johnny

posted by wtshnnfb01 (Member) on 2008-03-08 07:12 pm quote

I beg of you, can we hit ASOH or Surrender or some other old song next?

posted by Ali709 (Member) on 2008-03-08 07:44 pm quote

Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:
I beg of you, can we hit ASOH or Surrender or some other old song next?


The plan was to finish Pop and then move on to anything else...and you mentioned that twice now! No need to beg, whatever the people say. My vote would be to finish off Pop.

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